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  Is there any recent information about Watchtower owning 50% of Rand Cam Engine Corp & REGI Technologies?

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  please, recent information is needed about this subject discussed some 12-years ago here on jwn?

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  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/85323/watchtower-society-50-share-holder-military-company?page=1&size=10.

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  The Searcher

  From Reuters 3 days ago. No mention of the org having any shareholding.

  http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyOfficers?symbol=RGUS.PK&WTmodLOC=C4-Officers-5
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  Letter Read Out at KH

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know if this letter has been discussed or published here - apologies if it has.

  this is not verbatim, but it basically said that even if j.w.

  's couldn't offer any physical support for the wonderful provision of the new britain branch (which the g.b.

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  I don't know if this letter has been discussed or published here - apologies if it has.

  This is not verbatim, but it basically said that even if J.W.'s couldn't offer any physical support for the wonderful provision of the new Britain Branch (which the G.B. had allowed to go ahead) everyone could contribute financially to the project. To facilitate such donations, a new contribution box would be installed at the back of the KH, and all the money received would also be used to finance other projects around the world. So much for the existing box which is allegedly for everything org-related - Worldwide Work donations. Also, this new Branch construction demonstrated the great expansion taking place in the organization.

  Double-speak again from the org, and not one word about the new Branch being self-financed by the sales of all the lucrative London properties. The fleecing of the sheep continues at full speed.
  
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  Revelation already fulfilled

  by stockholm_Syndrome in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears to me revelation was 'fulfilled' 1st century and we are fooling ourselves to think it applies to present times .

  let's start with the opening statement:.

  a revelation by jesus christ, which god gave him,+ to show his slaves+ the things that must shortly take place.. hmm-- shortly take place ?

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  Just a thought: not only does the language which you've highlighted indicate that Revelation was mostly applicable to its 1st century audience, but also the very fact that John never mentions a single word about Christians escaping the destruction of Jerusalem a few years earlier gives serious credibility to the view that Revelation was written prior to 66 C.E, and not around 96 C.E. as tradition claims. https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/revelation.html
  
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  Melbourne Victoria Circuit Assembly Figures

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. social
  2. current

  hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.

  1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .

  before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.

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  Appreciate your post - most encouraging information! :)
  
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  JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.

  now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.

  recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.

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  The Searcher

  The org bases its "marking" dogma on 2 Thessalonians 3:6-14, which reads -

  "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat." We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good. Take special note [mark] of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed." (NIV)

  The context of Paul's instruction shows that he was referring to lazy, work-shy parasites who were living off the work of others - not for the insidious reasons which the org claims.

  Can't think of any modern-day parallels at the moment.
  
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  Norway: Hospitals Refuse To Accept JW Blood Card

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  been sent this - could be an interesting story - seems totally unrelated to recent events in canada, but see under the sub-heading 'debate after birth' - translation is via google, which is unfortunately not very good :(.

  from the thursday 8 december 2016 print editon of agderposten newspaper - a norwegian daily newspaper with a circulation of just under 20,000 (so admittedly a relatively small regionally based circulation newspaper).

  jehovas vitner har laget et blodkort for overføring i en akuttsituasjon.

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  Will those hospitals likewise ignore the warnings given by others via medical alert bracelets etc. if they are unconscious when admitted to hospital? https://www.medicalert.org.uk/

  I sense a legal challenge on this one.
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  Should a Priest ,Elder ,Pastor withold a crime from the relevant authorities because of a confidential confessional ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you believe , is a confessional something that is sacred between the the two parties involved ?

  or does it depend on the severity of the crime/sin.. or is their a responsability of the recpient of the confession to divulge what he/she knows about the crime.?.

  what we see in movies ,tv, etc shows it is a no no .but is that true ?the confessional is only between the two involved.?.

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  Since "confession" to a priest or elders is verifiably an unscriptural, religious dogma, there is absolutely nothing "sacred" about it! Therefore, it should not be used as a justification for concealing serious crimes.
  
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  How Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs - Reveal News - December 10, 2016

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  how jehovah's witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs.

  by trey bundy.

  reveal news.

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  The Searcher

  Zeb said - "I am amazed that the judge here didn't issue warrants for the arrest of the gb and the elders involved."
  

  Zalkin said - "he believes that state and federal law enforcement agencies have a moral obligation to investigate the Watchtower’s child abuse policies and seize its files."

  The longer the WTBTS evades any punitive measures by governmental agencies, the more I am convinced that the org is nothing less than an integral part of the political & financial system, and as such, has "friends in high places" who for the time being are providing cover for them.

  It seems that U.K. football authorities and teams have likewise been shielded from "bad publicity" due to the child rapists and abusers in their organization being concealed from public scrutiny. It will be interesting to see which/how many high profile persons helped to keep things quiet in British football - just like Jimmy Savile at the BBC.

  Time will tell if the org faces the same fate.
  
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  Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.

  he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".

  he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.

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  What a happy ending!!! Absolutely no good can come of sitting with a C.O. and an elder.

  When I was offered a "shepherding call" by an elder in my new congregation, I told him politely but firmly that I would never sit in a room with just two elders, ever again! I think he spread "the good news", because we've never been approached since.

  Draw the line in the sand for the org's Rottweilers.
  
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  The Searcher

  Each to his own, Punkofnice.

  To live for approximately 840 months on this planet seems too brief and totally unjust, hence the reason why the meaning of life is so crucial to so many people. Whatever happens, I hope the rest of your life has few troubles and obstacles and you have a long and happy retirement.